Ep 30. Clothing, Climate Change & Crops - what do these all have in common?

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What does fashion have to do with climate change? Featuring Ntaba Francis.


If you’ve ever wondered about how and where your food comes from, this episode will definitely be up your street, as we sit down with Ntaba Francis, a Climate Change Adaptation Specialist, talking about the current Grenadian agricultural landscape, to what happens when the country experiences climate-change shocks?


Ironically enough, even with all this research and development within agriculture…the most sustainable solutions to manage climate change shocks for a small island like Grenada, are actually the traditional basics… going back to old school farming and really utilizing the traditional ways of working; an answer right in from of us all this time!


This was such a fun, informative and engaging conversation, especially with all the themes and strategies being so relatable the fashion supply chain practices. We touch upon how the fashion industry could take a note from the food and agricultural industry, to boost a more transparent supply chain, being both beneficial for the producer and consumer.

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Time-stamps & key thoughts/ ideas bought up in this episode:


5:00 – Is “Climate Smart Agriculture” and “Sustainable agriculture” the same thing?


10:30 – The stereotypes and assumptions of the agricultural industry.


12:45 – What does a “day in the life” look like of an agricultural farmer today?

22:20 – The importance of Climate-Change Adaptation Agriculture.

- “Agriculture is so important to the livelihood of Grenada, so it’s important we grow our own food and buy what we grow… it’s important to look at the interrelationships between the agricultural sector and how it uses natural resources and so on… and how can the environment support the agricultural sector.” – Ntaba.

- “As a small island state, it’s so vulnerable to the impacts of climate-change.” – Ntaba.

- “Being able to recognise the climate-change shocks and the impacts that the farmers and even the farm animals are experiencing, allows the technical officers to support farmers in building a resilient farm.” – Ntaba.


31:30 – Traditional ways of farming versus modern-day farming practises.

- The challenges of time, labour and climate change impacts.

- Can technology help a vulnerable state like Grenada to modernise and improve its volatile farming?

- Traditional and culture passed down through farming, versus modern day research and science.

- “We have come to a point where we are so dependent on these fertilisers and chemical pesticides, it’s like we’re now putting our soil on crack… on drugs… and that’s not sustainable so we need to go back to traditional practises.” – Ntaba.


37:15 – How can farmers be incentivised to use sustainable practices, to protect our soil?


42:25 – An example of a climate shock experienced in Grenada, and some strategies that farmers can use to protect their crops.


54:30 - Agritourism, as a solution for an engaging educational experience.


1:02:30 – Last pieces of advice from Ntaba!

- If you have questions and concerns about your food, direct them to your local authority and supermarkets and figure out how you can encourage them to also support sectors in which thrive for more sustainable sourcing.

- As consumers, we have so much power in voting with our wallets. Increase the demand and market value for the food options that you want to see more of.

- Buy local and also choose types of food products that you know are grown locally, because choosing a mango in the UK may not be the most eco-friendliest produce... consider all those transport costs!



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Chelsea x


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